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Why do different groups speak a "special form" of English?
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I find it interesting that this video was posted because it was just yesterday that I corrected a student who used the word "axed" in class and a friend who used the frightfully scary word "youse", which is usually used to address more than one person. Some could say that a "special form" of English is used with many because of their environment or their dialect. However, improper English will always be just that, improper English, and when the time rolls around for a professional interview, many do not know how to use the words in their proper form.
i found this video very interesting because in the last week alone these are just some of the sentences I have heard from the students; " I don't got that paper, I ain't done my homework, I been dare, Dis what happened". But unlike the comments in the video, the teachers I am working with correct the students by saying the sentence back to them in the correct way, " You don't have that paper" or " You went there". It may be the enviroment these children live in. If the parents and family speak that way then that's all the children hear and they just assume its the correct way to speak. Teachers should be modeling proper English and correcting students when they are speaking improper English, this should just be an accpeted part of the learning process.
I found this video interesting because I find my students using improper English and slang constantly. The fact that they say " yous," "ain't," "ax," and " I ain't do nothing," is just unacceptable in the professional world. I mean even my English is not perfect all the time, however, I am aware when I need to speak proper and I think these students need to get in the habit of fixing their English. The other day one of my students was discussing a story they had read and he actually said "I been read that story." I jokingly said to him, "You have not been read anything." It was constructive because he immediately started laughing and realized how his words made absolutely no sense. However, that is how he would normally talk. I feel that being in an English classroom, especially, these students need to be corrected because if they do not break these habits now, they never will. I agree that it is important to know how to speak proper English because in an interview it is extremely important.
I found this video to be very interesting. Watching it, I was surprised that this teacher is targeting mostly African Americans. There are many people that I know, of all races, that speak incorrectly. I find myself correcting my boyfriend's bad English all the time. I feel that people of all dialects should be taught correct English, instead of specifically targeting one group. It is important to speak correctly in a professional setting, but I don't see a problem with people speaking a "special form" of English around their peers and familys.
I found this video extremely interesting because I was just discussing this matter with my cooperating teacher the other day. The conversation started after I had graded spelling tests and read over writing samples and noticed that the students were spelling and writing just like they speak. This proves the importance of correcting students' incorrect speech. The fact that students are pronouncing words incorrectly and using incorrect grammer is effecting their ability to spell and write efficiently. Common mistakes I have noticed are using ain't; replacing the "th" sound with the "f" sound; using incorrect forms of "be"; and using "got" instead of "have". Teachers should absolutely correct students when they speak or write in this "slang" manner. A teachers' main duty is to educate their students. Not educating them on proper English would be providing them a great disservice. Shouldn't teachers want to help their students become intelligent and competent members of society? How can students be viewed as being intelligent when they speak this way?
I have to say this video captured my frustration in this matter. I live in Jersey City, where some areas are considered "urban" by most accounts. Just walking around I hear countless people speaking this way. It's not just children either, it ranges from young kids to middle aged men and women. It's so frustrating because we can correct children during the day when they speak incorrectly in our classrooms but once they go home, their parents are probably speaking in the same manner. This topic can be related to ELL because while children are learning to speak English in our classrooms, once they go home parents may want their kids to speak their native language. If this happens the children don't get to practice English at home.
I think this video was very relevant to us, especially me, being an English major. I often see bad grammar used in essays and in responses in the classroom, but it is something that is hard to combat. They are so used to speaking this way that it is hard to get them to change. However, it is very important for them to do so as they go to college and eventually go into the workforce. I also agree with the video that it is not just a problem with black students, but students of all races and cultures. The school where I am doing my Junior Field is mostly white and those students use bad grammar as well.
I found the video to be interesting. I live in Staten Island, NY and I hear people using improper English and slang all of the time. It's not just young African American adults either. I notice that some people in Staten Island don't pronounce the "ing" at the end of the word. Instead of saying "How are you doing?" They will say "How ya doin?" I work in a retail store on Staten Island so I hear this type of incorrect English all of the time.
I cannot agree more with what this teacher is trying to do. I'm in a high school for my Jr. Field and I hear articulation problems all day long. I've even started to correct students to pronounce the "th" sound instead of "f". I am also an English major, and as such, I think it bothers me more than it probably should. The students look at me as though I have two heads! Some of them have even asked me, "Who are you and why are you correcting me?" I explain that I'm not trying to be picky; I just want them to sound as smart as I know they are. The video is right - the professional world of today does not tolerate the language spoken like that.
This video was interesting because not only have I heard it from the children I teach but I catch myself at times speaking that way too. Both of my parents were born in Italy and they have an accent, so much of my improper English I picked up from them. As much as teachers reinforces proper English you tend to speak in slang especially around friends. It is great that educators are trying to stop the cycle of improper English but at the same time it is hard to change if everyone around you speaks that way.
This video tells a true story. Not only children, but some adults have problems distinguishing between "ask" and "ax". I know when I was a little child, I used to say "ax" instead of ""ask." My father always tried to correct me when I used "ax" incorrectly. He always used to say jokingly, "I don't want my daughter to become a murderer." I can definitely relate to children that use the term incorrectly, but if the correct use of each word is reinforced, I believe that children will eventually understand.
The video was great and helpful. Every day my HS either mispell, or mispronounce something or everything. (you was there)(you ain't my mother)I hate it!!!!! Because when I was learning English my teacher were all over me correcting me. Now days, some teachers just gave up!!! In general who knows what the proper way or ways speaking and writing, English is very confusing.
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